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GTA 6 is slated for release sometime in 2025, and the sequel’s publisher said during a financial results call that it’s looking for perfection before the long-awaited open-world game finally launches.

Strauss Zelnick, CEO of Rockstar’s parent company Take-Two, told an investor when asked how a publisher decides when to release a game like this: “We’re looking for perfection, and when we feel like we’re creatively optimized, that’s when it’s time to release.” GTA 6. Zelnik then assured investors that “we’re all in this” and that both developers and administrators have financial incentives to ensure that development doesn’t drag on forever.